It only takes a minute to sign up. Connect and share knowledge within a single location that is structured and easy to search. In the 23rd century, it was displayed that Zefram Cochrane didn't know about universal translator. It means, he never encountered universal translator in 21st century when he was on Earth. At the time of first contact, she wasn't even born. Both points say that Vulcans the only interstellar party didn't have universal translator technology at the time of the first contact.
Official first contact didn't happen until when they detected Zefram Cochrane's first warp flight, but the Vulcans had been watching humans prior to that. It seems to be a rather closely-guarded secret, as at the end of ENT 2x02, Carbon Creek , T'Pol responded to their questions by saying that she just told them "a story" like they asked. However, it's then shown that she still owns the purse from Earth that her ancestor owned.
The survey ship had originally been sent to investigate the launch of Earth's first satellite, Sputnik. I think they had been observing humans for a while then when they detected warp tech they then started first contact. That being said since they observed them for a while they had time to learn the human's language. It's likely that they or other warping species had been monitoring ambient transmissions from the planet since the 20th century.
Surely they'd have the technology and linguistic know-how to be able to decode and grasp meaning from a simple aural language over the several decades they studied Earth before the first warp signature.
Some say "first contact" is when the Vulcans were first aware of us. I would venture that this moment was not their "first discovery", if they already happened to be traversing within our solar system close enough to detect a warp trail. The film audience hears the Vulcan officer give the traditional greeting of "Live long and prosper" in the same language spoken by the human characters, followed by Zefram Cochrane's reply of "Thanks".
The humans and Vulcans continue to interact afterwards, but the audience does not hear their dialogue. Perhaps the Vulcan officer spoke the phrase in Vulcan.
While the 21st Century humans would not have understood the precise words, they likely would have understood the intent of the peaceful greeting, especially since the Enterprise crew had already informed Cochrane that the Vulcans' mission was peaceful. Out-of-universe, the familiar Vulcan greeting may have been delivered in the film audience's language to avoid diminishing its impact through subtitles.
An in-universe explanation could be that the film audience understood the phrase because the Enterprise landing party heard it and understood it. There was an episode of Voyager where they found Amelia Earhart and several other humans from the time period in stasis.
When the Voyager crew let them out at least two of them didn't know English. Everyone spoke then wondered how everyone else in the room was speaking their language. Janeway explained that the universal communicators in the commbadges she and her crew was wearing was the cause. It's possible that with Picard and his crew being present that their commbadges translate, causing the Vulcans to hear Cochrane speak Vulcan and everyone else to hear English.
Vulcans are touch telepathic creatures. They might have communicated by this mean and then learnt human languages. We use hands and feet and we show what we mean, that is how language was and still is invented.
And down the road we understand each other, it will not happen on April 6th in the morning hours, but a few years later, we will understand each other and we will visit Vulcan, too!
Sign up to join this community. First, Hoshi Sato asked if the communication should be sent in Vulcan. Though T'Pol encouraged her to send it in English instead, Captain Jonathan Archer decided that the transmission should indeed be run through Enterprise 's universal translator , to avoid the risk of insulting anyone by making assumptions. A Vulcan expression of congratulations which was included in the first draft script of ENT : " Shadows of P'Jem " but not in the final draft of that script nor in the episode itself was " pontal na'sochya".
The Vulcan language has also appeared in numerous non- canon works over the years, such as the following dialogue from Spock's World :. TOS fan folklore included the word pastak , supposedly the Vulcan word for peace. Fans wished one another pastaklan vesla , "peaceful thoughts".
There was also a fanzine by this name. The most extensive and influential Vulcan language developed by fans in the s was that of linguist Dorothy Jones Heydt. It included roots, grammatical rules and syntax, and was used in her own stories and articles, then picked up by a number of other fan authors. The expression ni var , meaning "two forms" and originally referring to an art form in which two elements or aspects of a single subject are contrasted, was used as the title of a fan novella by Claire Gabriel which subsequently appeared in substantially edited form in the anthology Star Trek: The New Voyages.
The story enjoyed immense popularity among fans as well as with Leonard Nimoy himself. The Vulcan ship Ni'Var , which appeared in an episode of Enterprise , was named after the story; the original association with Heydt's seminal conlang had been forgotten. Memory Alpha Explore.
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User Info: traveltheory. User Info: SinisterSlay. They could have picked up english from our radio transmissions. Of course, if this happened now, they would think we are all idiots because of the text talk people use now. He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who Spock and Saavik speak some Vulcan at the beginning of Wrath. They're wrong. This is the age of misdirection. Trickery is what I do best. More topics from this board Keep me logged in on this device.
Forgot your username or password? Archer never had to use the UT to talk with the rebel faction on Vulcan I forget what they were actually called nor did he have any trouble speaking with the vulcans on P'jem.
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